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T O P I C R E V I E WRadiumDamn I think I'm lazy. I swear to god I just figured this out. Talented, caring, and empathetic, but....yeah. Neptune in 3rd Conjunct Venus.Pisces Sun, Pisces Saturn in 4th.North Node in the 12th.Sun conjunct Saturn.Can highly Neptunian people be lazy?Aries23DegreesLibra/Taurus on the 6th house cusp or Venus there. Because the daily grind should feel pleasurable or free from hassle. Libra/Taurus on the 4th house cusp or Venus conjunct. Preferring things that "flow" or are easygoing at your core.Libra/Taurus Moon/Sun ,Sun/Moon midpoint in Libra/Taurus or Sun/Moon midpoint conjunct Venus can be turned off by strenuous things or when things get complicated and require more energy input.Mars in Libra/Taurus is not necessarily lazy per se. But they will normally not have buzzing energy or jump into anything without first weighing what the energy input will yield(unless adverse aspects are present)They usually pace themselves but get going as time goes on (Especially Taurus). Libra is more motivated if tagging with someone or when someone is sharing the load because they want to honor their end of the bargain.girlwiththerainysoultypes of laziness taurus lazinessmore about being hedonistic, too comfortamble and relaxed and taking your time with your planslibra lazinessmore about vainness and lack of motivationleo lazinessmore about procrastination and being too playfulsagittarius lazinessmore about relying too much on luck and less on workpisces lazinessmore about lack of clearance and getting lost in some sort of addictionteaselFor me: Pisces laziness is more about finally relaxing, and not wanting to move, in case the feeling goes away. I love that dreamy feeling.KarkaQueenA bad Venus and a bad Moon.A underwhelming Mars [neither afflicted or dignified]madelineleo23I'm a Leo sun. I love to lounge. I have Neptune in the 1st house and it makes me tire quickly and require more sleep than most. My Moon is in the 2nd house (2nd house is ruled by Taurus). I like to be at home, eat food and lay in my bed. anonymidarknessSome are naturally lazy, passive I'd say.For some it is just a habit formed over time.Depends on which one you're talking about.Feminine signs are said to be more passive ofcourse. Cardinals are usually highly energetic I've found. Mutables can have one foot here and one foot there. That leaves us with Fixed, let's see, Taurus like to chill, Leo too to some extent, Aqua I don't know much about, Scorpio ermm not really, co-ruled by Mars afterall.Venusians could be lazy, could be. Neptunians too yes, coz things are too foggy and it probably makes them dizzy. You do need a bit of energy even to smoke weed though, you have to go out and hunt for it, find the dealer, run from cops, know how to roll a joint http://www.leafly.com/news/cannabis-101/how-to-roll-a-joint , requires a fair bit of Mars I'd say, let's see : Mars/Jupiter to run from cops, Mars/Pluto to penetrate beyond people's facades and find the dealer and Mars/Saturn to have enough patience to roll it up. Unless you decide to grow it in your backgarden, but even that is a risky stuff, would require a Mars/Uranus for that. And then finally you can smoke the weed and get lost in the paradise but even that'd require Mars/Neptune, and maybe you can make out with your partner too while you're both at it, high as fack, Mars/Venus-style.DualGemV2Cancer placements in males.They get too depressed or emotional in themselves to do anything.Or they think to highly of themselves and don't think they deserve to do any work.Think of "The Eight Wives of Henry The viii"My Planets=========================================☉‘ ♊, ☽ ♈, ASC ♑, ☿ ♊, ¡÷ ♉, ¡ö ♋ , ♃ ♒, ♄ ♏, ♅ ♐, ♆ ♑margym0oMars in Capricorn laziness:Only doing things that are worth the effort and energy required. If the task does not fall into an orderly plan, it doesn't get done. i.e. why do one chore this morning when I can do all of my chores tomorrow. Relax today, work tomorrow. That's the plan. It's all about efficiency and expending the least amount of energy possible for the greatest return!I also tend to see people with grand trines in their natal charts as lazy in some regard no matter what element it represents. It's like a gift that's taken for granted and there's a certain amount of ease that comes with this. Others may see it as a lack of inertia where the native would see it as "chill." Radium quote:Originally posted by anonymidarkness:Some are naturally lazy, passive I'd say.For some it is just a habit formed over time.Depends on which one you're talking about.Feminine signs are said to be more passive ofcourse. Cardinals are usually highly energetic I've found. Mutables can have one foot here and one foot there. That leaves us with Fixed, let's see, Taurus like to chill, Leo too to some extent, Aqua I don't know much about, Scorpio ermm not really, co-ruled by Mars afterall.Venusians could be lazy, could be. Neptunians too yes, coz things are too foggy and it probably makes them dizzy. You do need a bit of energy even to smoke weed though, you have to go out and hunt for it, find the dealer, run from cops, know how to roll a joint http://www.leafly.com/news/cannabis-101/how-to-roll-a-joint , requires a fair bit of Mars I'd say, let's see : Mars/Jupiter to run from cops, Mars/Pluto to penetrate beyond people's facades and find the dealer and Mars/Saturn to have enough patience to roll it up. Unless you decide to grow it in your backgarden, but even that is a risky stuff, would require a Mars/Uranus for that. And then finally you can smoke the weed and get lost in the paradise but even that'd require Mars/Neptune, and maybe you can make out with your partner too while you're both at it, high as fack, Mars/Venus-style.Lol what?IndianVenusian quote:Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:Libra/Taurus on the 6th house cusp or Venus there. Because the daily grind should feel pleasurable or free from hassle.Libra/Taurus on the 4th house cusp or Venus conjunct. Preferring things that "flow" or are easygoing at your core.Libra/Taurus Moon/Sun ,Sun/Moon midpoint in Libra/Taurus or Sun/Moon midpoint conjunct Venus can be turned off by strenuous things or when things get complicated and require more energy input.Mars in Libra/Taurus is not necessarily lazy per se. But they will normally not have buzzing energy or jump into anything without first weighing what the energy input will yield(unless adverse aspects are present)They usually pace themselves but get going as time goes on (Especially Taurus). Libra is more motivated if tagging with someone or when someone is sharing the load because they want to honor their end of the bargain.I have a Taurus Sun conjunct Mars and Moon, Libra rising and a dominant Venus (which is conjunct jupiter in pisces) and I am lazy sometimes. Not gonna deny it. But I do want to point out something about seemingly lazy people/procastinators. A person that you deem to be lazy may -1. Lack the motivation to do some particular thing due to lack of passion or else because they might be suffering from a mental illness (depression and anxiety for example).2. Fear of success3. The motivation to avoid failure exceeds their motivation to succeed 4. Lack of directionSo I think a strong presence of Neptune and/or Saturn in one's chart could result in "laziness" or at least what the person in question and others might think as being lazy. I'm saying this because many people (maybe even you) especially those who beat themselves up for being lazy don't realise there could be a cause for it other than not working for the sake of pleasure. I hope I'm making sense :3 diamondbabyYes.Possible indicators of laziness/procrastination in my opinion:Sun and/or Mars in PiscesSun and/or Mars in the 12th houseChallenging Sun/Neptune and Mars/Neptune aspectsmereiposa[QUOTE]Originally posted by DualGemV2:[B]Cancer placements in males.They get too depressed or emotional in themselves to do anything.Or they think to highly of themselves and don't think they deserve to do any work.Think of "The Eight Wives of Henry The viii"YES! I know someone who is Cancer heavy and very lazy. He can be a very hard worker if he wants, and is very smart and talented, but has no desire to do anything at all. Three degrees and chooses to work at a low level minimum wage job because he doesn't want any responsibility. He works only enough to pay the minimum bills and spends the rest on playing.And he has a very easy natal chart full of trines. He also has depression as well as narcissism. SulkyarcherTrines. I have Sun trine Moon, and I can be lazy as heck.I'm sure most Taureans are okay, but Taureans can lean towards laziness, their shadow aspects, of course!WhiteMoonA grand trine with no squares or oppositions or positive aspects that support drive and ambition. Life is too easy to make any effort.sharon_1977 quote:Originally posted by Radium:Damn I think I'm lazy. I swear to god I just figured this out. Talented, caring, and empathetic, but....yeah. Neptune in 3rd Conjunct Venus.Pisces Sun, Pisces Saturn in 4th.North Node in the 12th.Sun conjunct Saturn.Can highly Neptunian people be lazy?Hi RadiumI think it's more to do with your 12th house North Node and 6th house South Node (I have this). Because in a past life (if you believe) you were a workaholic and didn't really relax and didn't take your spiritual life seriously, in this life you're meant to take it easy and not work as hard. I can be very lazy, but not with things that NEED to be done. You're meant also to learn more about spiritual things in this life. manderin"Lazy" is subjective. There are plenty of workaholics who insist they are "lazy" because they only work 55 Hours a week.North node in the 12th house often causes trouble with routines and escapism. This often mean laziness because productive people tend to have more routine in their lives and they don't have a strong tendency to succumb to escapism.Randall quote:Originally posted by manderin:"Lazy" is subjective. There are plenty of workaholics who insist they are "lazy" because they only work 55 Hours a week.North node in the 12th house often causes trouble with routines and escapism. This often mean laziness because productive people tend to have more routine in their lives and they don't have a strong tendency to succumb to escapism.mereiposaInterestingly, the person I referred to earlier in this thread has a 6th house NN in Pisces and 12th house SN in Virgo. He should be working in this life towards career and work ethics... yet he doesn't. Totally by choice. TaurusVenusGirlTaurus Sun here. I'm on holidays in Thailand atm. Spending most of my time in my 5 star hotel ordering room service lounging by the pool and having massages. Not going to bother sight seeing as its too exhausting... I'm loving my comfy king size bed the most. Not sure why I even bother to travel. I'm so lazy.XzaultaXI have a Taurus Moon in Taurus 6th house cusp. I'm lazy, very lazy, sometimes I take 3 hour naps when I already had a full nights rest. But productivity wise, it's either all or nothing for me. It's either I just do enough to get by in a class or I write a two page essay on a topic I'm actually interested in, but it's probably because of the Sun square Uranus in my chart.
Neptune in 3rd Conjunct Venus.Pisces Sun, Pisces Saturn in 4th.North Node in the 12th.Sun conjunct Saturn.
Can highly Neptunian people be lazy?
Libra/Taurus on the 4th house cusp or Venus conjunct. Preferring things that "flow" or are easygoing at your core.
Libra/Taurus Moon/Sun ,Sun/Moon midpoint in Libra/Taurus or Sun/Moon midpoint conjunct Venus can be turned off by strenuous things or when things get complicated and require more energy input.
Mars in Libra/Taurus is not necessarily lazy per se. But they will normally not have buzzing energy or jump into anything without first weighing what the energy input will yield(unless adverse aspects are present)
They usually pace themselves but get going as time goes on (Especially Taurus). Libra is more motivated if tagging with someone or when someone is sharing the load because they want to honor their end of the bargain.
taurus lazinessmore about being hedonistic, too comfortamble and relaxed and taking your time with your plans
libra lazinessmore about vainness and lack of motivation
leo lazinessmore about procrastination and being too playful
sagittarius lazinessmore about relying too much on luck and less on work
pisces lazinessmore about lack of clearance and getting lost in some sort of addiction
A underwhelming Mars [neither afflicted or dignified]
I have Neptune in the 1st house and it makes me tire quickly and require more sleep than most.
My Moon is in the 2nd house (2nd house is ruled by Taurus). I like to be at home, eat food and lay in my bed.
For some it is just a habit formed over time.
Depends on which one you're talking about.
Feminine signs are said to be more passive ofcourse. Cardinals are usually highly energetic I've found. Mutables can have one foot here and one foot there. That leaves us with Fixed, let's see, Taurus like to chill, Leo too to some extent, Aqua I don't know much about, Scorpio ermm not really, co-ruled by Mars afterall.
Venusians could be lazy, could be. Neptunians too yes, coz things are too foggy and it probably makes them dizzy. You do need a bit of energy even to smoke weed though, you have to go out and hunt for it, find the dealer, run from cops, know how to roll a joint http://www.leafly.com/news/cannabis-101/how-to-roll-a-joint , requires a fair bit of Mars I'd say, let's see : Mars/Jupiter to run from cops, Mars/Pluto to penetrate beyond people's facades and find the dealer and Mars/Saturn to have enough patience to roll it up. Unless you decide to grow it in your backgarden, but even that is a risky stuff, would require a Mars/Uranus for that. And then finally you can smoke the weed and get lost in the paradise but even that'd require Mars/Neptune, and maybe you can make out with your partner too while you're both at it, high as fack, Mars/Venus-style.
They get too depressed or emotional in themselves to do anything.
Or they think to highly of themselves and don't think they deserve to do any work.
Think of "The Eight Wives of Henry The viii"
My Planets=========================================☉‘ ♊, ☽ ♈, ASC ♑, ☿ ♊, ¡÷ ♉, ¡ö ♋ , ♃ ♒, ♄ ♏, ♅ ♐, ♆ ♑
I also tend to see people with grand trines in their natal charts as lazy in some regard no matter what element it represents. It's like a gift that's taken for granted and there's a certain amount of ease that comes with this. Others may see it as a lack of inertia where the native would see it as "chill."
quote:Originally posted by anonymidarkness:Some are naturally lazy, passive I'd say.For some it is just a habit formed over time.Depends on which one you're talking about.Feminine signs are said to be more passive ofcourse. Cardinals are usually highly energetic I've found. Mutables can have one foot here and one foot there. That leaves us with Fixed, let's see, Taurus like to chill, Leo too to some extent, Aqua I don't know much about, Scorpio ermm not really, co-ruled by Mars afterall.Venusians could be lazy, could be. Neptunians too yes, coz things are too foggy and it probably makes them dizzy. You do need a bit of energy even to smoke weed though, you have to go out and hunt for it, find the dealer, run from cops, know how to roll a joint http://www.leafly.com/news/cannabis-101/how-to-roll-a-joint , requires a fair bit of Mars I'd say, let's see : Mars/Jupiter to run from cops, Mars/Pluto to penetrate beyond people's facades and find the dealer and Mars/Saturn to have enough patience to roll it up. Unless you decide to grow it in your backgarden, but even that is a risky stuff, would require a Mars/Uranus for that. And then finally you can smoke the weed and get lost in the paradise but even that'd require Mars/Neptune, and maybe you can make out with your partner too while you're both at it, high as fack, Mars/Venus-style.
Lol what?
quote:Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:Libra/Taurus on the 6th house cusp or Venus there. Because the daily grind should feel pleasurable or free from hassle.Libra/Taurus on the 4th house cusp or Venus conjunct. Preferring things that "flow" or are easygoing at your core.Libra/Taurus Moon/Sun ,Sun/Moon midpoint in Libra/Taurus or Sun/Moon midpoint conjunct Venus can be turned off by strenuous things or when things get complicated and require more energy input.Mars in Libra/Taurus is not necessarily lazy per se. But they will normally not have buzzing energy or jump into anything without first weighing what the energy input will yield(unless adverse aspects are present)They usually pace themselves but get going as time goes on (Especially Taurus). Libra is more motivated if tagging with someone or when someone is sharing the load because they want to honor their end of the bargain.
I have a Taurus Sun conjunct Mars and Moon, Libra rising and a dominant Venus (which is conjunct jupiter in pisces) and I am lazy sometimes. Not gonna deny it.
But I do want to point out something about seemingly lazy people/procastinators. A person that you deem to be lazy may -
1. Lack the motivation to do some particular thing due to lack of passion or else because they might be suffering from a mental illness (depression and anxiety for example).2. Fear of success3. The motivation to avoid failure exceeds their motivation to succeed 4. Lack of direction
So I think a strong presence of Neptune and/or Saturn in one's chart could result in "laziness" or at least what the person in question and others might think as being lazy. I'm saying this because many people (maybe even you) especially those who beat themselves up for being lazy don't realise there could be a cause for it other than not working for the sake of pleasure.
I hope I'm making sense :3
Possible indicators of laziness/procrastination in my opinion:
Sun and/or Mars in PiscesSun and/or Mars in the 12th houseChallenging Sun/Neptune and Mars/Neptune aspects
YES! I know someone who is Cancer heavy and very lazy. He can be a very hard worker if he wants, and is very smart and talented, but has no desire to do anything at all. Three degrees and chooses to work at a low level minimum wage job because he doesn't want any responsibility. He works only enough to pay the minimum bills and spends the rest on playing.
And he has a very easy natal chart full of trines. He also has depression as well as narcissism.
I'm sure most Taureans are okay, but Taureans can lean towards laziness, their shadow aspects, of course!
quote:Originally posted by Radium:Damn I think I'm lazy. I swear to god I just figured this out. Talented, caring, and empathetic, but....yeah. Neptune in 3rd Conjunct Venus.Pisces Sun, Pisces Saturn in 4th.North Node in the 12th.Sun conjunct Saturn.Can highly Neptunian people be lazy?
Hi Radium
I think it's more to do with your 12th house North Node and 6th house South Node (I have this). Because in a past life (if you believe) you were a workaholic and didn't really relax and didn't take your spiritual life seriously, in this life you're meant to take it easy and not work as hard. I can be very lazy, but not with things that NEED to be done. You're meant also to learn more about spiritual things in this life.
North node in the 12th house often causes trouble with routines and escapism. This often mean laziness because productive people tend to have more routine in their lives and they don't have a strong tendency to succumb to escapism.
quote:Originally posted by manderin:"Lazy" is subjective. There are plenty of workaholics who insist they are "lazy" because they only work 55 Hours a week.North node in the 12th house often causes trouble with routines and escapism. This often mean laziness because productive people tend to have more routine in their lives and they don't have a strong tendency to succumb to escapism.
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